Comments for Keith E Rice's Integrated SocioPsychology Blog & Pages https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net Aligning, integrating and applying the behavioural sciences Tue, 17 Dec 2019 08:48:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.3.2 Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Keith E Rice https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16360 Tue, 17 Dec 2019 08:48:53 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16360 Hi, Véronique

I think we’ve been heading into systemic turmoil since 2016. Many of the ‘systems’ are no longer fit for purpose.

Eg: in the UK election, 54% of those who voted did so for pro-referendum parties. Modelling has shown we would have had a very different composition of Parliament with proportional representation – eg: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-results-pr-alternative-voting-system-tories-labour-hung-a9246661.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1ByIDGSH90T8IgQD48WysQrvW62SJMCpJD2SQcAoCg-yafiB4DEPlLRT0#Echobox=1576323008 The systems for electing our party leaders is broken. In the Summer Boris Johnson became prime minister on the whim of Tory Party members – a tiny proportion of the UK electorate. The Labour Party system allowed the flooding of the membership at cheap rates by hard left radicals (Momentum) who elected a leader (Jeremy Corbyn) distrusted and despised by most of his MPs.

Arguably the biggest systemic failure is the one that allows 5% of the world’s population to own 60% of its wealth while 20% is in dire poverty.

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Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Véronique Marot https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16356 Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:18:25 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16356 A period of systemic turmoil can be predicted. Could we see that as a step toward a change?

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Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Fiona Savage https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16346 Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:25:59 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16346 Fiona Savage Interesting article. thanks for sharing. I see that many in the UK are feed up with the EU Neoliberalism.
The problem is we don’t have the 3rd way we are stuck with right v left even Scotland centre-left Government works in a traditional way when structuring policies.
Boris win will certainly be a catalyst for Scottish Independence. He does not want to give Scotland a second referendum as he knows how much money Scotland gives to England.
the South of England spends at least a 1/3 more per head on infrastructure than the rest of the UK which comes out of the pockets of the north England and Scotland.
There will be a backlash from Scotland if he continues to refuse Indy 2 so we are in for interesting times!.

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Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Jon Twigge https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16343 Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:02:53 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16343 Great article. The only thing I am not sure about is how a softer brexit might be possible at the same time as loosening standards and a US trade deal.

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Comment on A 2nd Tier Approach to a 1st Tier World by Frederic Martin https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/writings/a-2nd-tier-approach-to-a-1st-tier-world/#comment-16249 Sun, 10 Nov 2019 18:58:19 +0000 http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?page_id=15403#comment-16249 Thank you for this great article! Maybe combining Spiral Dynamics and Theory U could yield great applications

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Comment on Jerry Coursen on Clare W Graves by Keith E Rice https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/articles/jerry-coursen-on-clare-w-graves/#comment-13642 Mon, 11 Feb 2019 08:07:52 +0000 http://integratedsociopsychology.net/blog/?page_id=2875#comment-13642 On Amazon.co.uk https://www.amazon.co.uk/Clare-W-Graves-Life-Work/dp/1532038437/ref=sr_1_1?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1549872128&sr=8-1&keywords=Krumm+Graves I reviewed Krumm & Pastorfer’s very welcome Graves book…

“What a wonderful addition to the Gravesian/Spiral Dynamics literature! Not so much a simple reproduction of Graves’ papers but an informed summary of his works. Even including his master’s and doctoral theses from way before he commenced the work that became his defining theory.

Krumm & Parstorfer offer little judgement or evaluation of the work but summarise the key points of Graves’ articles effectively. There is also a very useful section on his methodologies and an overview of the theory.

To help readers with some knowledge of Spiral Dynamics but who have never investigated the scientific work behind it, the terminology of Graves’ systems/levels is coded to their equivalents in SD.”

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Comment on Jerry Coursen on Clare W Graves by Rainer Krumm https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/articles/jerry-coursen-on-clare-w-graves/#comment-13621 Sun, 10 Feb 2019 07:15:10 +0000 http://integratedsociopsychology.net/blog/?page_id=2875#comment-13621 Thank you for that article, to whom it may concern, we wrote a biography about Clare W.Graves and Don Beck wrote the foreword.
Best regards from Germany Rainer Krumm
https://www.amazon.com/Clare-W-Graves-Life-Work/dp/1532038437

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Comment on Article 50 Withdrawal: John Major is wrong! by Keith E Rice https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2018/article-50-withdrawal-john-major-is-wrong/#comment-11496 Wed, 19 Dec 2018 14:07:27 +0000 http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=14854#comment-11496 Today Best for Britain are claiming a 12% lead for Remain over Leave https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/backing-for-second-eu-referendum-seen-in-all-areas-of-britain-data-analysis-shows-a4021036.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR30BlbAc5mejtDFzcTvqxO69SKOABnMywLo00HSXSxPpE8ptkXEIEQkKAg#Echobox=1545202762

I think there is still everything to play for but the situation is incredibly complex. Yes, Anna Soubry is reported to have said she would rather have a no-deal Brexit than a Corbyn government. But she’s also said she will resign the Conservative whip if May tries to push through a no-deal Brexit – as has former minister Nick Boles.

If Soubry and Boles left the Tories would Chukka and his mates leave Labour and pal up with them to form a new centrist anti-Brexit party? The old Marxist-derived lines of Capitalists vs Proletariat may actually be morphing into Globalist/Internationalist vs Populist/Nationalist. Maybe….

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Comment on Article 50 Withdrawal: John Major is wrong! by David Burnby https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2018/article-50-withdrawal-john-major-is-wrong/#comment-11483 Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:09:02 +0000 http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=14854#comment-11483 Arguing for a second referendum seems to assume that this will in some way solve the problem. It won’t of course. My feeling is that a second referendum would be equally as divisive as the first. My prediction is that the turnout will be significantly lower as much of the electorate will be disillusioned by the process and have lost confidence in ‘democracy’. From conversations I’ve had, the Brexit supporters have dug in and there will, in my view, be few conversions. I see a 10% majority on either side highly unlikely. The vote you have not mentioned is the one that returned the Tories to power in the 2017 general election, albeit without an overall majority. People voted for Tories in the clear understanding that they would deliver on Brexit. They are getting what they wished for. Rather than another referendum (a crazy form of decision making for an issue of some complexity) we need a government that is prepared to remain in the EEC and work for reform. Labour is prepared to do this, but there is no way the malcontent Tories or the DUP will risk a Corbyn government for all the reasons you outline in your opening remarks. So we’re done. And we’ll have to work with the consequences. Let’s move on!

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Comment on Article 50 Withdrawal: John Major is wrong! by Jon Twigge https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2018/article-50-withdrawal-john-major-is-wrong/#comment-11471 Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:14:13 +0000 http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=14854#comment-11471 I agree. It should be noted the government would probably revoke article 50 if remain won another vote.
In the case of a small majority to remain surely the logical way forward would be another referendum in perhaps 10 years.

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