Comments for Keith E Rice's Integrated SocioPsychology Blog & Pages https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net Aligning, integrating and applying the behavioural sciences Sun, 21 Jun 2020 22:01:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.2 Comment on For Sian and Gillian Baverstock by Keith E Rice https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2007/for-sian-and-gillian-baverstock/#comment-16575 Mon, 24 Feb 2020 07:08:00 +0000 http://keitherice.wordpress.com/?p=174#comment-16575 Thanks for this, Mark.

This post has been in the top 3 most popular posts on this site since I wrote it over 12 years ago. Clearly a lot of people have an ongoing interest in the Baverstocks and the Blytons.

If you have some positive reminiscences of Sian and her family, please do post them in the comments here. For all their tragedy, they clearly touched a lot of people’s lives – and I’m sure your memories of them would be interesting reading.

As far as I can tell from a quick Google, Mike Tracey is still working on his book about Donald.

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Comment on For Sian and Gillian Baverstock by MARK BOTTOMLEY https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2007/for-sian-and-gillian-baverstock/#comment-16574 Sun, 23 Feb 2020 21:40:51 +0000 http://keitherice.wordpress.com/?p=174#comment-16574 Hi Keith,
I knew all the Baverstocks’very well especially Donald and Owain, , I even had my own “room” at Low Hall. There was a time when I could have intervened and probably helped Sian, when she asked me to go to a Neil Young concert, I was unable to go, this was shortly before she died. I still have huge regrets about this, mainly because I knew she had problems with drugs. Now as someone in recovery I understand. I regret this very much to this very day.

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Comment on Boris and Trump: How do They get away with it? by John Bunzl https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2020/boris-and-trump-how-do-they-get-away-with-it/#comment-16570 Sat, 22 Feb 2020 13:55:43 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16505#comment-16570 The Left hasn’t only left the door wide open to the populist Right through its ridiculous focus on political correctness and identity politics. It has also completely failed to offer any solutions to the down-sides of globalization. With the rich and the multinationals being able to play one national government off against others for ever-lower taxes, and with governments encouraged to adopt open-door immigration policies to provide cheap labour to attract corporations to their country, it’s little wonder we’ve ended up where we are. But this also means that trying to restore sanity from the political centre-ground will be a waste of time. For solutions no longer lie at the national level. The room for yet more ‘translation’ at that level has now been exhausted. No, the problem, at its base, is that we have a global economy that is as yet un-matched by governance on the same global scale. Solutions, in other words, are only to be found by moving UP from the national, nation-centric political level to a global, worldcentric level. Hard to contemplate, I know. But transformation always is.

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Comment on Boris and Trump: How do They get away with it? by Keith E Rice https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2020/boris-and-trump-how-do-they-get-away-with-it/#comment-16564 Fri, 21 Feb 2020 08:10:34 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16505#comment-16564 In reply to David Burnby.

It’s a good point about whether extreme times call for extreme policies…

For example, deciding to rid Germany of Nazism was an extreme policy but it turned out pretty well (in the end) and we justify it. Ridding Iraq of Saddam Hussein was a similar extreme policy but it turned out very badly and few now try to justify it.

So it’s a judgement call and will depend on your morality, philosophy and possibly your religion.

I remember once putting it to you whether you would prefer, if it came down to it, a man of principle to lead Labour or a man who could win elections. You plumped for the former. I would always go for the latter in a pinch. You can be as principled as you like…but, IMHO, if you can’t get your hands on the levers of power….

Labour went with your view and now we’ve got potentially 5 years of the (apparently) most extreme Tory government in perhaps a century…? If Johnson & Cummings do half of what they’re threatening to do, they’re going to make Thatcher look pretty moderate.

But I agree with you totally about needing “fundamental constitutional and electoral reform”. It’s how to get it….

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Comment on Boris and Trump: How do They get away with it? by David Burnby https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2020/boris-and-trump-how-do-they-get-away-with-it/#comment-16563 Thu, 20 Feb 2020 14:55:21 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16505#comment-16563 Fascinating analysis as ever Keith! “Isolate the extremists”: the assumption is that ‘extremism’ (as defined by the Mainstream media) is automatically a bad thing. We live in extreme times and we need policies that will challenge the neo-liberal consensus of the middle ground. If all you want is a different kind of Tory in No 10 (a la Tony Blair) then you can shift your policy agenda towards a populist line and bask in further mediocrity until people figure out your just the same as the last government and therefore there’s no point in voting at all. Little wonder that the biggest share of the electorate for the last few General Elections was the non-voters. They won’t be won over by more of the same ‘middle of the road’ policies. Incidentally, the statement ‘Labour’s worst election defeat since the 1930s’ is correct in terms of seats won (which in terms of controlling the government is of course all that matters) but let’s be clear that Corbyn, despite being demonised and slandered to an unprecedented degree by the mainstream media, still managed to attract more votes than Miliband and indeed, more than Blair in his final term. It’s not the policies that were at fault. We need fundamental constitutional and electoral reform if we’re going to make any serious claim to be a democracy.

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Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Keith E Rice https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16360 Tue, 17 Dec 2019 08:48:53 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16360 In reply to Véronique Marot.

Hi, Véronique

I think we’ve been heading into systemic turmoil since 2016. Many of the ‘systems’ are no longer fit for purpose.

Eg: in the UK election, 54% of those who voted did so for pro-referendum parties. Modelling has shown we would have had a very different composition of Parliament with proportional representation – eg: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-results-pr-alternative-voting-system-tories-labour-hung-a9246661.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1ByIDGSH90T8IgQD48WysQrvW62SJMCpJD2SQcAoCg-yafiB4DEPlLRT0#Echobox=1576323008 The systems for electing our party leaders is broken. In the Summer Boris Johnson became prime minister on the whim of Tory Party members – a tiny proportion of the UK electorate. The Labour Party system allowed the flooding of the membership at cheap rates by hard left radicals (Momentum) who elected a leader (Jeremy Corbyn) distrusted and despised by most of his MPs.

Arguably the biggest systemic failure is the one that allows 5% of the world’s population to own 60% of its wealth while 20% is in dire poverty.

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Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Véronique Marot https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16356 Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:18:25 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16356 A period of systemic turmoil can be predicted. Could we see that as a step toward a change?

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Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Fiona Savage https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16346 Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:25:59 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16346 Fiona Savage Interesting article. thanks for sharing. I see that many in the UK are feed up with the EU Neoliberalism.
The problem is we don’t have the 3rd way we are stuck with right v left even Scotland centre-left Government works in a traditional way when structuring policies.
Boris win will certainly be a catalyst for Scottish Independence. He does not want to give Scotland a second referendum as he knows how much money Scotland gives to England.
the South of England spends at least a 1/3 more per head on infrastructure than the rest of the UK which comes out of the pockets of the north England and Scotland.
There will be a backlash from Scotland if he continues to refuse Indy 2 so we are in for interesting times!.

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Comment on Johnson’s Victory does not create Certainty by Jon Twigge https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/2019/johnsons-victory-does-not-create-certainty/#comment-16343 Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:02:53 +0000 https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?p=16091#comment-16343 Great article. The only thing I am not sure about is how a softer brexit might be possible at the same time as loosening standards and a US trade deal.

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Comment on A 2nd Tier Approach to a 1st Tier World by Frederic Martin https://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/writings/a-2nd-tier-approach-to-a-1st-tier-world/#comment-16249 Sun, 10 Nov 2019 18:58:19 +0000 http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/?page_id=15403#comment-16249 Thank you for this great article! Maybe combining Spiral Dynamics and Theory U could yield great applications

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